Were ‘Pachamama’ statues absent from Amazon Synod’s closing Mass after bishops’ resistance?
By Maike Hickson, Oct 28, 2019 – 4:12 pm EST
October 28, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) – To the surprise of many observers, the “Pachamama” statues were not present in St. Peter’s Basilica during the closing Mass of the Amazon Synod on 27 October. Sources in Rome overheard bishops in the synod hall saying that they would not participate at the closing Mass in St. Peter’s if the Pachamama statues were going to be present.
The Austrian Catholic news website Kath.net has reported this fact today, and a well-placed source in Rome confirmed the story to LifeSite, saying that he heard from an eye witness from the Synod Hall that some bishops announced they would not participate at the Sunday Mass at St. Peter’s. Due to the current tense atmosphere in Rome, our source explicitly had to speak on the condition of anonymity.
Kath.net itself writes on the fact that the Pachamama statues were missing during the closing Mass on Sunday: “One hears from usually well-informed circles in the Vatican that, on the part of the bishops, there were beforehand some statements, according to which they would not be able to participate at the closing Mass if these [Pachamama] statues would be used.”
As LifeSiteNews reported, Pope Francis had announced on Friday that the Pachamama statues that had been thrown into the Tiber River by some indignant Catholics had been retrieved. He also mentioned the possibility that they would be again on display at St. Peter’s during the closing Mass on Sunday.
Stated the Pope: “The leadership of the Carabinieri will be very happy to follow any indication given on the method of making the news [of the retrieval of the Pachamama statues] public, and regarding the other initiatives desired in its regard, for example, the commander said, ‘the display of the statues at the closing Mass of the Synod.’ We’ll see. I delegate the Secretary of State to respond to this.”
On Saturday, several prelates and priests spoke up, pointing to the pagan character of the Pachamama statues and opposing the display of them in any Catholic Church, much less any act of honoring them or venerating them.
For example, Bishop Athanasius Schneider of Astana, Kazakhstan, speaking about the presence of the Pachamama statues at several ceremonies in the Vatican, stated that “Catholics cannot accept any pagan worship, nor any syncretism between pagan beliefs and practices and those of the Catholic Church.” He continued, saying that “the acts of worship of kindling a light, of bowing, of prostrating or profoundly bowing to the ground and dancing before an unclothed female statue, which represents neither Our Lady nor a canonized saint of the Church, violates the first Commandments of God: ‘You shall have no other gods before Me.’”
Schneider praised the men who removed the Pachamama statues from a Catholic church in Rome as “heroes”, saying about them: “Like a new ‘Maccabees’ they acted in the spirit of the holy wrath of Our Lord, who expelled the merchants from the temple of Jerusalem with a whip. The gestures of these Christian men will be recorded in the annals of Church history as a heroic act which brought glory to the Christian name.”
At the same time, Bishop Schneider called out those who watched on and did not do anything about the presence of the Pachamama statues in Rome, by saying that “the acts of high-ranking churchmen, on the contrary, who defiled the Christian name in Rome, will go down in history as cowardly and treacherous acts of ambiguity and syncretism.”
Bishop Marian Eleganti, from Chur, Switzerland, stated on Saturday that, even if Pope Francis somehow insists that these statues were used “without idolatrous intentions,” “there would still remain the scandal that, at least, it looks like such [idolatry] and that the Rock of Peter [the Pope] is not at all getting worried about it.” On the contrary, said Eleganti, the Pope “even defends those rituals conducted in the Vatican Gardens” which are “alien to Christianity.”
“It is not understandable to an observer that the publicly displayed veneration of Pachamama at the Amazon Synod is not meant to be idolatry,” he added.
As it seems now, there have been several prelates in the Synod Hall who had similar thoughts and therefore made it be known that they would abstain from coming to the closing Mass on Sunday at St. Peter’s should the Pachamama statues be present.
Earlier this week, on Thursday, Cardinal Gerhard Müller had already raised his voice of resistance against the Pachamama statues. He told EWTN’s journalist Raymond Arroyo that “The great mistake was to bring the idols into the Church, not to put them out, because according to the Law of God Himself – the First Commandment – idolism [idolatry] is a grave sin and not to mix them with the Christian liturgy.”
“To put it out,” Müller continued, “to throw it out, can be against human law, but to bring the idols into the Church was a grave sin, a crime against the Divine Law.”
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Vatican News alters interview of Amazon Synod’s key organizer approving ‘pagan worship’
By Maike Hickson, Oct 29, 2019 – 3:49 pm EST
October 29, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) – Vatican News, the information system of the Holy See, has scrubbed an interview with Fr. Paulo Suess, one of the key authors of the controversial Amazon Synod’s working document, in which he defended the pagan ceremonies that took place in the Vatican during the synod.
Last week, LifeSiteNews reported on a lengthy interview given by Fr. Suess in which he discussed the heavily criticized pagan ceremonies that took place in the Vatican during the recently concluded Synod, and which were conducted in the presence of Pope Francis.
He said that, “when during the opening ceremony the Pope picked us and the indigenous up at St. Peter’s, there was to be seen also a canoe boat. And then someone wrote that this is a pagan rite.” Inside the canoe was a carved wooden statue which has been the center of controversy that critics say is the “Pachamama” fertility idol. “So what,” was Suess’s response to the claim that this ceremony was a pagan rite.
“Even if it would have been a pagan rite, then it is nevertheless a pagan worship of God,” he added.
“A rite always has something to do with worship of God,” continued this professor of Missiology from Brazil. “One cannot dismiss the pagan [rite] as nothing. What is pagan? In our big cities, we are not less pagan than those there in the jungle. One should reflect upon this.”
It should be noted that Vatican News originally altered the specific words of Suess that were captured by video when it omitted his word “pagan” in the former sentence “then it is nevertheless a pagan worship of God.”
This interview caused a stir among Catholics, since this key architect of the Amazon Synod’s working document showed clearly that he has no objections to pagan ceremonies in the Vatican. In his new statement of October 27, Bishop Athanasius Schneider made an explicit reference to this original Suess interview with Vatican News.
However, since LifeSite’s report on this controversial interview, Vatican News has removed both the video and audio that had been published along with its report, and it also cut out the entire passage on these words from Suess in the article. The video with the entire interview with Suess is still on the Facebook of Vatican News, but it is not anymore shown on the article itself. And the audio has also been removed, but LifeSite was able to retrieve it in an archived version. Vatican News did not make a note that their article had been updated or altered.
Several outlets have noticed this omission, among them being Infovaticana and Catholic News Agency (CNA).
This is not the only event where the Vatican has been found to cover up some uncomfortable truths. Another example is the fact that the Prefect of the Holy See’s Dicastery for Communications, Paolo Ruffini, flatly denied at the press conference of October 25 that at the October 4 pagan ceremony in the Vatican Gardens, there took place a physical prostration before the pagan idol, Pachamama. By way of contrast, Ruffini stated: “There were no rituals. No prostration took place. We have repeated this here. We have to be rigorous in saying things that actually happened before cameras. We said that this did not happen.”
Another example is the recurrent refusal by speakers during the Vatican’s press conferences – among them Mr. Ruffini himself – to acknowledge that the wooden statues of a pregnant, naked woman are Pachamama statues. They, instead, called the statues “a symbol of fertility and life.” In the end, it was Pope Francis himself who, on October 25 in the synod hall, called the statues “Pachamama statues.” – Read the source: https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/vatican-news-scrubs-interview-of-amazon-synods-architect-approving-pagan-worship-of-god
SWISS BISHOP: IT IS NOT CONCEIVABLE THAT IN THE VATICAN GARDENS PEOPLE FELL ON THEIR FACES IN FRONT OF PACHAMAMA
- 29/10/2019 Other Author
“The Pachamama is not the Virgin Mary, the Mother of the Church. It is not conceivable that in the Vatican Gardens people fell on their faces in front of her, that she stands everywhere in prominent places and is being carried around, where it would be better to honor and display the miraculous image of Our Lady of Guadalupe. This grace-filled image is an image of the Virgin May, given to us by Heaven, that is unambiguous and at the same time inculturated, with indigenous traits and symbols. It is not understandable for an observer that the publicly displayed veneration of Pachamama at the Amazon Synod is not meant to be idolatry
And even if this were to be the case [that the veneration of Pachamama is not idolatry], there would still remain the scandal that it at least looks like such and that the Rock of Peter [the Pope] is not getting worried about it, but, instead, even defends those rituals conducted in the Vatican Gardens that are well documented and alien to Christianity and that he at the same time regrets the strong, but understandable reactions.”
Mos. Rev. Marian Elegant, the auxiliary bishop of Chur, Switzerland.
Source: LifeSiteNews
Read the source: https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/swiss-bishop-it-is-a-scandal-that-the-pope-defends-those-rituals-inside-the-vatican-gardens
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SOCIALISM AND COMMUNISM AS PRIMITIVE: Leftism has always been rooted in the desire for regression http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/14/socialism-and-communism-as-primitive-leftism-has-always-been-rooted-in-the-desire-for-regression/
‘Circoli Minori’ Begin at Synod of Bishops on the Amazon: Explained During Briefing at Holy See Press Office http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/10/circoli-minori-begin-at-synod-of-bishops-on-the-amazon-explained-during-briefing-at-holy-see-press-office/
BACKLASH TO AMAZON SYNOD FATHERS’ PROPOSAL OF ‘ECOLOGICAL SINS’: Catholics slam cardinals for diverting attention from priestly sex abuse crisis http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/10/backlash-to-amazon-synod-fathers-proposal-of-ecological-sins-catholics-slam-cardinals-for-diverting-attention-from-priestly-sex-abuse-crisis/
CARDINAL ROBERT SARAH: AMAZON SYNOD’S PUSH FOR MARRIED PRIESTS ‘INSULT TO GOD’ – Connects heart of crisis to atheism within Church walls http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/10/cardinal-robert-sarah-amazon-synods-push-for-married-priests-insult-to-god-connects-heart-of-crisis-to-atheism-within-church-walls/
Did Pope Francis Deny Christ’s Divinity? 2019 Scalfari Interview http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/10/did-pope-francis-deny-christs-divinity-2019-scalfari-interview/
Eugenio Scalfari: Pope Francis Told Me That Jesus Incarnate Was a ‘Man … Not at All a God’ http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/09/eugenio-scalfari-pope-francis-told-me-that-jesus-incarnate-was-a-man-not-at-all-a-god/
CARDINAL ROBERT SARAH: AMAZON SYNOD’S PUSH FOR MARRIED PRIESTS ‘INSULT TO GOD’ – Connects heart of crisis to atheism within Church walls http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/10/cardinal-robert-sarah-amazon-synods-push-for-married-priests-insult-to-god-connects-heart-of-crisis-to-atheism-within-church-walls/
Synod Eyes ‘Creativity’ of the Church for New Ministries in the Amazon http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/10/synod-eyes-creativity-of-the-church-for-new-ministries-in-the-amazon/
CARDINAL GERHARD MÜLLER: JESUS HAS BEEN CHASED OUT OF THE SYNOD – German synod leaders describe Jesus as out-of-touch ‘man’ http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/09/cardinal-gerhard-muller-jesus-has-been-chased-out-of-the-synod-german-synod-leaders-describe-jesus-as-out-of-touch-man/
AMAZON SYNOD REPORT: MOTHER EARTH – It’s not just another ‘Mother Nature’ http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/09/amazon-synod-report-mother-earth-its-not-just-another-mother-nature/
Eugenio Scalfari: Pope Francis Told Me That Jesus Incarnate Was a ‘Man … Not at All a God’ http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/09/eugenio-scalfari-pope-francis-told-me-that-jesus-incarnate-was-a-man-not-at-all-a-god/
Pope Francis in Santa Marta warns of the danger of being an ideological Church http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/08/pope-francis-in-santa-marta-warns-of-the-danger-of-being-an-ideological-church/
AMAZON SYNOD REPORT — LOTS OF APPLAUSE (FOR REVOLUTION) And it IS revolution http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/08/amazon-synod-report-lots-of-applause-for-revolution-and-it-is-revolution/
Amazonian tribal leader: Liberation Theology is pushing our people to remain in poverty and misery http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/08/amazonian-tribal-leader-liberation-theology-is-pushing-our-people-to-remain-in-poverty-and-misery/
#TnT: Amazon Paganism in Rome, and Pope Francis http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/08/tnt-amazon-paganism-in-rome-and-pope-francis/
Pope Francis opens Synod: Remember missionary martyrs and beware temptation of colonialism http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/07/pope-francis-opens-synod-remember-missionary-martyrs-and-beware-temptation-of-colonialism/
Amazon Synod Report: Pope Francis — ‘I Want the Confusion’ http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/07/amazon-synod-report-pope-francis-i-want-the-confusion/
ARCHBISHOP CARLO MARIA VIGANÒ TO BROTHER BISHOPS: ‘BE WARY OF KEEPING SILENT’ IN FACE OF ERROR http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/07/archbishop-carlo-maria-vigano-to-brother-bishops-be-wary-of-keeping-silent-in-face-of-error/
Pope Francis Opens Synod of Bishops for Amazon with Mass in Vatican Basilica http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/06/pope-francis-opens-synod-of-bishops-for-amazon-with-mass-in-vatican-basilica/
Pope Francis prays with indigenous in Vatican for Amazon Synod http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/04/pope-francis-prays-with-indigenous-in-vatican-for-amazon-synod/
ROME ROUNDTABLE: CATHOLIC EXPERTS SOUND ALARM OVER CURRENT PAPACY – Panelists touch on controversial themes of Amazon Synod http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/04/rome-roundtable-catholic-experts-sound-alarm-over-current-papacy-panelists-touch-on-controversial-themes-of-amazon-synod/
CARDINAL GERHARD MÜLLER: BAN ON FEMALE CLERGY A ‘DOGMA’ OF FAITH – Statement follows synod organizer’s claim that teaching can be changed http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/04/cardinal-gerhard-muller-ban-on-female-clergy-a-dogma-of-faith-statement-follows-synod-organizers-claim-that-teaching-can-be-changed/
RACISM WRAPPED UP IN GREEN: Amazon synod pushes climate change alarmism http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/03/racism-wrapped-up-in-green-amazon-synod-pushes-climate-change-alarmism/
PRO-GAY MALTESE BISHOP TAPPED FOR VATICAN POSITION: Bishop Mario Grech of the Gozo diocese appointed to Synod of Bishops, will participate in Amazon Synod http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/03/pro-gay-maltese-bishop-tapped-for-vatican-position-bishop-mario-grech-of-the-gozo-diocese-appointed-to-synod-of-bishops-will-participate-in-amazon-synod/
What Does the Amazon Synod’s Working Document Really Say? http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/03/what-does-the-amazon-synods-working-document-really-say/
Vatican relaxes restrictions on married ex-priests, hints they may be allowed to return to ministry http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/10/03/vatican-relaxes-restrictions-on-married-ex-priests-hints-they-may-be-allowed-to-return-to-ministry/
GERMAN CARDINAL RAINER WOELKI SEEKS TO PROTECT THE CHURCH http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/09/30/german-cardinal-rainer-woelki-seeks-to-protect-the-church/
AMAZON SYNOD COVERAGE http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/09/30/amazon-synod-coverage/
CARDINAL RAYMOND BURKE: REVOLUTION IS THE GOAL – Amazon Synod isn’t about evangelization in the Amazon http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/09/26/cardinal-raymond-burke-revolution-is-the-goal-amazon-synod-isnt-about-evangelization-in-the-amazon/
Cardinal Raymond Burke, Bishop Schneider: Silence about errors under Pope Francis would be ‘great sin’ http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/09/25/cardinal-raymond-burke-bishop-schneider-silence-about-errors-under-pope-francis-would-be-great-sin/
GERMAN SYNOD MARCHES FORWARD – Cardinal Reinhard Marx: ‘There is no stop sign from Rome’ http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/09/25/german-synod-marches-forward-cardinal-reinhard-marx-there-is-no-stop-sign-from-rome/
REMAKING THE CHURCH: Amazon Synod in the works since earliest days of Francis’ papacy http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/09/24/remaking-the-church-amazon-synod-in-the-works-since-earliest-days-of-francis-papacy/
POPE FRANCIS TAPS RADICAL PRO-LGBT US BISHOP ROBERT MCELROY TO BE SYNOD FATHER: San Diego’s Bp. McElroy has promoted gay marriage and dissent from Church teaching http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/09/23/pope-francis-taps-radical-pro-lgbt-us-bishop-robert-mcelroy-to-be-synod-father-san-diegos-bp-mcelroy-has-promoted-gay-marriage-and-dissent-from-church-teaching/
Cardinal Robert Sarah’s Cri de Coeur: The Catholic Church Has Lost Its Sense of the Sacred http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/09/23/cardinal-robert-sarahs-cri-de-coeur-the-catholic-church-has-lost-its-sense-of-the-sacred/
Centuries ago, popes warned of modern Church crises as if they were alive today http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/09/22/centuries-ago-popes-warned-of-modern-church-crises-as-if-they-were-alive-today/
Amazon Synod: The Trojan Horse of Liberation Theology http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/09/11/amazon-synod-the-trojan-horse-of-liberation-theology/
Pan-Amazon Synod Will Address a Region That Is No Longer Catholic http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/09/11/pan-amazon-synod-will-address-a-region-that-is-no-longer-catholic/
CARDINAL RAYMOND BURKE ON AMAZON SYNOD WORKING DOCUMENT: ‘APOSTASY’ – Joins Cardinals Brandmüller, Müller in denouncing synod http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/08/14/cardinal-raymond-burke-on-amazon-synod-working-document-apostasy-joins-cardinals-brandmuller-muller-in-denouncing-synod/
AMAZON SYNOD THEOLOGIAN PUSHES LEFTIST IDEOLOGY: Ex-priest Leonardo Boff promotes liberation theology, neo-paganism http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/08/14/amazon-synod-theologian-pushes-leftist-ideology-ex-priest-leonardo-boff-promotes-liberation-theology-neo-paganism/
Five Ways to Prepare for the Amazon Synod http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/08/13/five-ways-to-prepare-for-the-amazon-synod/
Cardinal George Pell: ‘Amazon or no Amazon, the Church cannot allow any confusion’ http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/08/09/cardinal-george-pell-amazon-or-no-amazon-the-church-cannot-allow-any-confusion/
Correcting the Synods of Surprises http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/07/29/correcting-the-synods-of-surprises/
What’s the Deal with the Green New Deal? http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/07/29/whats-the-deal-with-the-green-new-deal/
The Church at the Service of the Neo-Pagan Agenda http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/07/28/the-church-at-the-service-of-the-neo-pagan-agenda/
“Politically Correct” Ecology: An Impious and Inhumane Ideology http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/07/28/politically-correct-ecology-an-impious-and-inhumane-ideology/
BISHOP ATHANASIUS SCHNEIDER, CHURCH LEADERS SLAM AMAZON SYNOD AS ‘IDEOLOGICAL’ TOOL: Calls for institution of eucharistic adoration ‘in all of Amazonia’ http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/07/19/bishop-athanasius-schneider-church-leaders-slam-amazon-synod-as-ideological-tool-calls-for-institution-of-eucharistic-adoration-in-all-of-amazonia/
Cardinal Gerhard Müller: Amazon Synod is a ‘pretext for changing the Church’ http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/07/16/cardinal-gerhard-muller-amazon-synod-is-a-pretext-for-changing-the-church/
The Amazon Synod Goes Native: The utopians in our midst dust off Rousseau’s Noble Savage thesis and try to convince us that life in the jungle beats life in the air-conditioned suburbs http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/07/03/the-amazon-synod-goes-native-the-utopians-in-our-midst-dust-off-rousseaus-noble-savage-thesis-and-try-to-convince-us-that-life-in-the-jungle-beats-life-in-the-air-conditioned-suburbs/
PAN-AMAZON REVOLT IS COMING – Bishop Franz-Josef Overbeck: ‘Nothing will be the same’ http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/07/01/pan-amazon-revolt-is-coming-bishop-franz-josef-overbeck-nothing-will-be-the-same/
THE AMAZON SYNOD AND MARRIED PRIESTS: Evil brought into the Church under guise of ‘safe, legal and rare’ http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/03/01/the-amazon-synod-and-married-priests-evil-brought-into-the-church-under-guise-of-safe-legal-and-rare/
FAITHFUL CATHOLICS SLAM PAN-AMAZON SYNOD WORKING DOCUMENT: October Synod of Bishops transforms Church into ‘secular NGO with ecological-social-psychological mandate’ http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/06/27/faithful-catholics-slam-pan-amazon-synod-working-document-october-synod-of-bishops-transforms-church-into-secular-ngo-with-ecological-social-psychological-mandate/
Pope Francis and PanAmazonian Synod Plans Revealed #TnT Commentary http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/06/21/pope-francis-and-panamazonian-synod-plans-revealed-tnt-commentary/
Synod to study ordaining married priests, but only in remote areas of the Amazon http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/06/17/synod-to-study-ordaining-married-priests-but-only-in-remote-areas-of-the-amazon/
THE PAN-AMAZON SYNOD: Discussing environmental issues while the Catholic faith erodes http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/03/11/the-pan-amazon-synod-discussing-environmental-issues-while-the-catholic-faith-erodes/
THE AMAZON SYNOD AND MARRIED PRIESTS: Evil brought into the Church under guise of ‘safe, legal and rare’ http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/03/01/the-amazon-synod-and-married-priests-evil-brought-into-the-church-under-guise-of-safe-legal-and-rare/
BRAZILIAN GOVERNMENT VOICES CONCERNS WITH UPCOMING PAN-AMAZONIAN SYNOD: Government is worried Church synod could be hijacked by ‘left-wing agenda’ http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2019/02/15/brazilian-government-voices-concerns-with-upcoming-pan-amazonian-synod-government-is-worried-church-synod-could-be-hijacked-by-left-wing-agenda/